ay yo homeboy looks like sharkweek
mmm!! well the way i see it, the fundamental characteristic is knowledge for knowledge’s sake. another way to put this is to say the challenge for the sake of the challenge, or to quote samuel beckett, “in pursuit of the difficulty rather than in its clutch; the disquiet of him who lacks an adversary.” so in my opinion what’s important to your essential ravenclaw is this pursuit of knowledge / stimulation. book smarts don’t necessarily have anything to do with it?? because stimulation doesn’t necessarily have to be academic in a traditional sense.
i think that describes aomine pretty well, really. his big tragedy is that he gets too good, so he descends into this existential boredom that results from the lack of a challenge. ”the only one who can beat me is me” — funny, yeah; egotistical, for sure; vaguely tragic? yes. you can tell that he wishes it wasn’t true.
see, for aomine, winning isn’t the thing. it’s the challenge, the joy of getting to exercise yourself to your full potential against a worthy opponent. note how excited he is to play kise, how much he perks up when kagami proves himself worthy — and how different his excitement is from kagami’s. he goes ‘stay out of the way—i have a real opponent!’ while kagami is much more…polite about the whole thing. hah.
also, note that aomine purposefully makes games harder for himself — refusing to take momoi’s data, saying ‘eh, we don’t need strategy, i’ll handle it’, racking up all the fouls…
in the end, his fundamental desire is for stimulation, not power or recognition or altruism or any of the end goals that are generally associated with slytherin and gryffindor. that’s what makes aomine a ravenclaw to me.
ahhaaha Penny your tags
but yeah I really love this description by j ugh it’s my favourite ever
someone just drew art (well even sketches count) on wind waves i’m gonna die
(have i ever told you the fastest way to make me love you forever is to draw something from what i’ve written because asfsdgfdfgd)
Aah, what you addressed were articulate and insightful points and, for that I’m really thankful of your expansion on the original text! I’ve noticed others following up with similarly thoughtful responses, which I would have never expected for a post that began as dead-in-the-night rambling. The ultimate drawback is that it wasn’t a fully structured (or planned) meta when first written, and as incomplete it may be, I think everyone’s discussion gave it more substance than how the post originally started out.
Nevertheless, there’s some points that I think could still be further clarified, so this reply’s focused more on taking your post into view and a take-two on the original.
In summary, I will go over:
- Social standards and its presumed “age group”
- Rin and the Olympics and—
- Finally a bit about Haruka.
[I cut off the originals to save space, but if anyone wants to read them, just click on the link above!]
Firstly, thank you so much for the response! I’m glad it was able to shed some light on this further, because as I suspected, a lot of it came down to phrasing more than anything else; by glossing over contextualization (which I am personally guilty of at times, since it makes for very long-winded analysis) it’s very easy to confuse readers with semantic differences. In this case, the subject operates on two levels: how a person narratively functions in a text vs what they are objectively like in a text, which are obviously two very different things.
In Rin’s case, as your reading suggests, it can be argued that he is supposed to represent a non-traditional (or, more foreigner-like) character, yet direct observation into his characteristics actually negates many of these assumptions. Likewise, the opposite is true of Haruka. Therefore, the “question” was not so much that your theory was ever incorrect, so much as it glossed over making a distinction between the two (which, as I suggested and you confirmed, was probably just for the sake of cutting corners and not necessarily anything you directly intentionally overlooked).
Nonetheless, I would happily elaborate on some of the points I made that you asked and/or responded to on the points you discussed above!
haru’s ‘HOW DARE YOU MAKE ME FEEL THINGS’ never fails to give me life
Jesus I’d drink everything with you
that mini fridge is super adorbs omg *_*
Haha I love how you always have that shit written down somewhere
I forgot to do incoherent flailing when you posted the new chapter so I’ll do it here
-rolls across your floor from where I dramatically threw myself last time, hits a sofa, lies there making pathetic wheezing sounds-
And that was your new episode of how you effect my soul.
…also, is that text you wrote for ch. 8…rainbow? Or are the pixels just messing with my eyes a little?
oh wow now that you mention it i can … see a rainbow… @A@ i think photoshop did something funny to the image when i sharpened the layer after resizing the image, but it’s an amusing coincidence.
(and also thank you!!)
There’s been a lot of speculations on why Makoharu wins the general favor of the Japanese audience, whereas the MH and RH ratio is more evened out on Tumblr. Why is that, exactly? I’ve heard “biased translations” attributed as a reason among them. However, there’s one very crucial factor that’s often overlooked. No one can pinpoint a perfect cause for this, but I think there is a definite correlation on how Matsuoka Rin is generally viewed. The difference?
It has to do with culture.
Aahhh… first off, I need to preface this by saying a friend linked me to this just to discuss it further, and it was a very interesting (not to mention well-structured, because I love well-structured) read! I also never meant to actually write a follow-up, because that seems somewhat intrusive and I understand that not everyone is as obsessed with dissecting this show and its dynamics, and even I sometimes get lazy and cut around the corners with my meta just to wrap things up faster. So you can basically ignore everything I’m gonna write here by saying “well that’s what I would have added if I wasn’t a lifeless loser like you” and point taken haha.
The reason I was inspired to comment, though, is because as far as discussion of individuality and collectivism goes, I was expecting Haruka’s name to pop up – and it never did. I understand this text focused on Rin first and foremost, but since the subject of Harurin lies at the crux of the argument (as in, why the Japanese favour Makoharu more), it felt to me that by pinpointing Rin to exist at the root of this schism for his individualistic traits alone, it’s… actually kind of overlooking an important part about the show: Rin isn’t necessarily the biggest “anomaly” in Free!.
I personally feel (and will argue below), that this person? Is actually Haruka.
Wow. These are very interesting points, honestly. Didn’t think the concept of tatemae will ever be used in fandom. I do think that it is integral in every part of any series.
The point of collectivity is also interesting because, while true to Japanese society, the idea of a common hero being one of the crowd just doesn’t sit well in literature. At one point, any hero, common as his beginnings are, will always rise above or beyond the normal. Of course, it’s hard to argue what’s “normal” in any society. If Japan’s biggest manga series is One Piece, does this mean that Luffy counts as “normal”? This makes me want to reflect on this further.
Another factor that came up in my head is the idea of precedence and establishment. Without reading too much in the text and simply looking at the behaviour of Japanese fans in response to the text, signs of MakoHaru came first, hence fans leaned towards that.
Now, this is where the power of fans come in. Sometimes, the original text is not enough to set a ship sailing. Sometimes, all it needs is a couple of great artists to keep a ship sailing for other people to follow suit. If any of you guys are following pixiv, you’ll see the amount of fantastic artists under MakoHaru.
It’s a fandom within fandom. One girl does an awesome art and comic and people ship it. And in this case the Japanese fan, she might not be any different than us Western fans, she will follow that ship. And you know what, she’s a fantastic artist too and she will draw awesome art drawing her fans towards her ship. And fans of the fanartist will follow and this inspires an armada of shippers.
One of the biggest MakoHaru shippers is Aoi Levin, a professional manga artist but she’s really more known in dojinshi and her dojin work. If you’ve read her dojinshi work on D18, there you go. She has been known to carry ships and turn people towards that ship. When Free! was out, she literally littered her twitter with tons of MakoHaru art which have long been replied and retweeted by fans. The same thing with Yoneda Kou’s 8018.
The language of participatory culture is surprisingly universal. Although the rules, logic, and history of Western vis-a-vis Japanese participatory culture is entirely different. In the case of Free, the ship of MakoHaru was established first and for the longest time, in relation to the text. Yes, we saw bits and pieces of HaruRin but it wasn’t until the final episode that a lot more people truly acknowledged Rin. Prior to that, the knowledge and logic behind MakoHaru has already been running in fandom for more than two months and that’s more than enough to set fandom to produce content to inspire others towards that ship.
Also, there’s a somewhat hidden rule in Japanese fandom to favor non-canon ships. The less obvious it is, the lesser the series validates it or pays attention to it, the more the original text denies its possibility, the fandom will rear that ship until it’s real to them. Utsumi’s acknowledgement of Rin and “Harurin” points that the series itself will deliver their fannish needs for that ship. Hence, Japanese fandom will pay attention to the one that has been sidelined.
Ah Free~ the discussions you inspire sometimes.
KHURSTEN I LOVE YOU
and by which I mean I love your knowledge and insight into the mystical world of bl and fandom from a purely scientific point of view because this stuff is seriously interesting. Given that I had little factual information to comment on the actual topic at hand –why Makoharu is so popular in Japan– myself, this was an awesome addition so I’m reblogging for everyone to see.
Also, shorter, but worth the read as always, Cait’s 2 cents on private vs public sphere.